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>> i don't know the answer to that. >> does he know the answer? >> i don't think we know until these guys come out of the meeting. but the fbi does have a counterintelligence section as to whether there was. it's a separate thing for the fbi to interview a potential candidate. i think. >> if there is something that is inappropria inappropriate, aren't the weapon cans -- if something is done inappropriately, and the president has the right for an

Term, which is really what we're talking about here. the much more likely scenario, if there is any option right now, is what you and i talked about last night, which is the six-week stopgap debt ceiling increase, and that is the time they'll have to negotiate. it's unclear how much they can get done that paul ryan and others are suggesting, big picture and big changes in entitlements and so forth. >> there was a meeting between house democrats. you got news from a lawmaker that attended. what came out of it? >> that's right, a democratic lawmaker i spoke with said the president was more firm ...