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I would not hold my breath for success on appeal. she might win a few points, but i dont think she's going to get a significant reduction in her sentence. >> you talked about how the russians like symmetrical trades. viktor bout, he's a threat to the international order. a drug smuggler, weapons smuggler. paul whelan is falsely accused of spying and brittney griner had less than a gram of cannabis oil. surely there must be two russians in americans prisons who are closer in symmetry to paul whelan and brittney griner in the charges than viktor bout, no? >> of course, there are. if you're talki...

Federal prison until the end of this decade. it is known that russia wants him out. that is what this is probably all about. brittani greener, britney griner's attorney says he has been discussing this with the russians. they are definitely interested in a prisoner exchange for victor boot. it is the president of the united states will be highly unlikely to make that to make an exchange for unknown weapons smuggler. somebody who was convicted of smuggling arms, to terrorist groups. groups are out to kill americans. it will be extremely difficult. however, it may be that you can put a bundle to...