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It, concocts, it basically. and it went wrong, by the way, with the web designer case, because they forgot to tell the plaintiffs that they were concocting him into it. and so that one was sort of exposed. >> yeah, i agree. i think i said this last week, and jay and i tend to be on the same side of this aspect of it, although i'll go a step further and say that i think we're making a problem where there isn't a problem to be had, in the sense that clearly this website hasn't even gotten into wedding planning a wedding website services, and then all of a sudden concocts this case. i don't neces...

Website or get a website, that's discrimination. however, it is limited to cases where there really is a free speech interest. in this case both parties agreed that creating a website, typing in the words of a website, is speech. that means that it is not a blanket license to discriminate such that anybody can make that decision. and again i'm not interested in getting the supreme court off the hook. that's not my interest. rather i don't think we should be, as they sometimes say, don't comply in advance. we should not be giving away more rights by saying, they've taken away all these rights w...

And so that one was sort of exposed. >> yeah, i agree. i think i said this last week, and jay and i tend to be on the same side of this aspect of it, although i'll go a step further and say that i think we're making a problem where there isn't a problem to be had, in the sense that clearly this website designer hasn't even gotten into wedding planning a wedding website services, and then all of a sudden concocts this case. i don't necessarily, i don't agree with how it came about, but i also am of the mind that we live in a capitalist society, and if you don't want to do business with somebody...

Want to, because all they need is five votes to prevail and they've got six. the last thing to remember about them is it's a relatively young conservative majority. they are going to be here, which could be for decades. a hard right turn could continue in the terms to come. >> this is why a lot of people talk about the reason voting is so important. these people are put in place and put up for a vote by the president of the united states, whoever that may be. there was something quite notable that has come out after the supreme court decision in that colorado web designer case. the designer wo...