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Veselnitskaya, and then you have butina. is it possible they didn't know what the other was doing? >> it's possible but it's not possible the kremlin and putin didn't know. >> he's the spider but there were all sorts of extended webs that not everybody knew what -- who was operating in which web segment. >> yeah, that's right. >> yes. you mentioned sergei corps kov and i'm glad you reminded everybody about him. he's faded away but remember he was -- he was in charge at the time of russia's largest bank. one of the largest banks of the

After and stepping into mommy's shoes down the road. ella is hysterical. she's already a paid contributor. she's, what, how old? >> she's 5. >> yeah, 5. >> it's a little crazy. she does a web segment with me for our show called political playground where she comments on the news of the day. the latest one is on the panda cam being back up and that pandas come from china and they're there for immigrants to this country and how should we treat immigrants. she's amazing. she came to me and she said, mommy, when am i going to get paid for my job? i thought she was talking generally. i was like, wh...