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Millions more would not see their premiums sky rocket and the installation of the program would not have been a frustrating embarrassment. so did romney care -- did it have such a bumpy rollout as well, john? >> i think it had a bumpy rollout. it had hitches and glitches, you might say. i think both democrats and republicans in massachusetts would agree it was not the size and scale of the scope of the problems we have seen with the president's. in part, perhaps because it's a government program, which is what romney was trying to make, do it state by state, not nationally. only 23 people sign...

Online and able to sign up for health care which they may have not had before or had access to before. there are obvious bank robberies the sgebt the way it was rolled out. at the end of the day the long term effects will have such a vast positive impact on the lives of so many americans that these short term health website problems are just that. short term website problems that can be fixed. and look. you may be absolutely right about that. history could prove you 1,000% right but there has to be some frustration that warnings were given and nothing was done. >> no doubt there's frustratio...

The the the -- when the state of massachusetts rolled out his its health care man years as. >> i will remind you that enrollment doesn't begin until march of 2014. the massachusetts system was very slow initially and it ramped up over time. >> reporter: the website problems were almost like window dressing where open warfare over health care has been waged for decades. a democratic party member leaped out of his chair. >> how many of you stood up to do that? none! zero. >> it's a false choice to say it's obama care or nothing. >> are you really serious? you had a legitimate alternative? we've ...

Safe. he was that able to do it. the suspect then fired a single round to try to kill him and fled. police arrived and then this happened. >> he said i feel like my chest hurt. they started looking at the clerk and that's when they realize that had guy shot him, hit him, and the cell phone stopped the bullet. he is happy to be alive. >> it is incredible. the clerk's cell phone was shattered. the bullet found inside. that's the cell phone you see. there his life was saved. police tell us the suspect is still at large but they do have surveillance video and some leads. now our fifth story "outfr...

Audited financial statements for the year that ends june 30th -- that ended june 30th, 2013. nearly $60 million goes to 26 of jerry sandusky's victims. let's get back to the controversy over the nsa spy targets. "the wall street journal" as you know has been reporting that president obama wasn't briefed on specific efforts to listen in on world leaders. that includes the german chancellor angela merkel among others, key ally of the united states whose cell phone was reportedly tap. after a review earlier this year, those leaders were taken off the watch list according to the report. rememberer...