millions more would not see their premiums sky rocket and the installation of the program would not have been a frustrating embarrassment. so did romney care -- did it have such a bumpy rollout as well, john? >> i think it had a bumpy rollout. it had hitches and glitches, you might say. i think both democrats and republicans in massachusetts would agree it was not the size and scale of the scope of the problems we have seen with the president's. in part, perhaps because it's a government program, which is what romney was trying to make, do it state by state, not nationally. only 23 people signed up for romney care in the first month. so when the president now says we can't give you the rollout numbers, sure, there were problems early on. that's part of the president's hope today, to get people to lift their heads, look past the website problems, look past the idea of did he mislead or was he just too naive to know that many people would lose the people they had and think six months, a