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Position i ended up in the campaign, so i do not actually know what occurred at that time. my role did not pick up, and i said this multiple times until after metaphor left, in the vacuum of taking over these operations. i do not know anything about it. i do not know what i've heard. probably the same time you did what occurred. >> martha: paul manafort never said -- can you give me some data? >> i was not with the campaign at that point. >> martha: never any interconnection? >> i was not in charge of data until after paul manafort left. >> martha: zero interaction with paul manafort? >> i nev...

Small. between went to a church where there are 20 people and would people who helped enroll there. then yesterday i went where there were about 300 people there waiting to get help with insurance. the big target is people who haven't watched the website stuff. are not watching "funny or die" but still need health insurance. >> to talk about the specific instances have you seen of people trying to sign up. is everyone who is going and sitting down with one of those advocacy groups or navigators actually getting health care. >> no. everyone isn't. i actually met someone yesterday who -- came wi...

You saw the sign-ups are really high right now. also, all this website stuff has moved away. the website is working. it's going pretty well. you no longer have -- i don't think it's going to be a positive issue for democrats in 2014, but i think you're seeing it become less of a burden on candidates. that's what democratic candidates are going to be relieved by. >> all right. well, thank you so much. >> thanks, karen. >> thanks. up next, a reporter dares to call bs on rumors of a political comeback for the donald. wait until you see what happened next. play close. good and close. help keep t...

Problems are. i think we're discovering right now, which is a problem in and of itself. so just going out there saying, we got it, we'll fix it, is -- >> not we got it, we blew it and we'll fix it. >> i mean, he did say that. >> i know, but that's part of the problem. >> the reason he was perhaps long winded or 26 minutes longer than you would have preferred is the administration feels like they need to make the case for the aca independent of this website stuff. i think there's a legitimacy to that. it's bigger than the websites. that said, at points during that speech, it did sort of sound l...

Completely in their lane. it was not forced by other efforts. >> they won't quite blame hhs, at the same time, there has to be some kind -- it's not clear officials at the white house who -- briefings in september seemed bullish and did not see this kind of website problem. remember a few weeks ago we were talking about how the website is working great, it's just the volume is so high. i think it's very clear that's not the case. it was not about volume. it was about website design. second problem, come back to what ari said. look at tem, a state they wanted rick perry to accept the medicaid f...