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It does is it undermines the institution to paul's point. you can criticize the judge and say -- plus the ruling hasn't even happened yet so that's inappropriate to go after the judges asaing eve an bad high school student can understand the statute. perhaps but he's not doing himself any good by going after the judges in this way. >> jeffrey lord was on the program last night or -- it all blends together and i said to him would you recommend politically donald trump go after these judges before there's a ruling and he said absolutely. >> good for the base. >> plays into hi base and continues ...

They and i believe otherwise because when the executive order was released a few days ago nordstrom's put out a letter say weerg professing our faith in immigrants basically at the same time they said they were letting to of her product. there were other stores that let go of her product after he became president. they can cite low sales but -- >> there is a boycott trump movement going on and a viral letter demanding nordstrom's get rid of ivanka's clothes so there could be a political element to this. i just don't think the president should be getting involved in it, right? don't you think i...

Today. did you ask him about the president's comments or did he bring them up on his own? i said to judge gorsuch i find these attacks on the judiciary absolutely abhorrent and unacceptable, and i asked him to express his criticism and to condemn these kinds of public attacks on an independent judiciary. at that point, after some back and forth he did say that he found them to be disheartening and demoralizing. my view this is condemnation has to be public and express and deliberate because he has to show the american people he'll be independent, more than just a rubber stamp for a president...