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Before saying he doesn't think it from mueller's team. i'd be curious to think what else that could encompass. and the second is the very critical paragraph, because it talks about e-mails and text messages. i know from my own reporting president trump doesn't use e-mail, he doesn't text. it's one of the things that helps him most in all of this. i'd be curious to know and i'm sure we all are, what that e-ma e-mail traffic involves. is it the children discussing things with others? john mentioned alan weiselberg. i know he's talk to the southern district of new york but i don't have any eviden...

Was able to provide obviously some sort of important collaboration there. what more ok'd -- how wide -- i guess, how broad is the standard immunity agreement with somebody like weiselberg? is the assumption he's supposed to help with other parts of various cases? put it this way -- is robert mueller going to get his hands on weiselberg? >> he may. immunity obviously goes along with this, common with the extent of the testimony. the judgment has been made by the southern district we need this guy's testimony. we don't quite have enough to charge him or maybe his culpability isn't enough to make...

Weis weiselberg, pecker, with anybody, they can go to the department of justice and the judge and seek to expand that. >> let me go to the manafort situation and the supposed partial plea deal he was looking for. it sounded like he was looking to see if -- you tell me -- was he simply trying to get the tax charges like, look, can we plea to those, and we just narrow the scope of the second trial? is that -- if that was what his ask was, why do you think mueller said no? >> yeah, i wasn't that surprised to hear that there was some plea negotiations about the d.c. trial. you know, pleas like thi...