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It's not funny. it's horse laughter that you give to somebody because you are supposed to laugh. some ethnic jokes might be at least funny, but this is stupid making the reference to him being from kenya. it's not even clever and has not a bit of wit. it's their way of saying yeah, we don't like him. he is ethnically impure and he is from we don't know where. you knew it was a white guy. that was no surprise. what was this about? >> the the core of the republican raids at the base is this sense that the country has slipped away from them and their parents benefitted from the new deal and they ...

Dependency. >> that's wrong because we have a work requirement in the welfare program. when welfare reform passed the welfare case load was 1.1 million now under mayor bloomberg it's 360,000. we enforce the work requirement aggressively you put people to work in all kinds of work experience type activity. we have continued to do that. we do that for single individuals on food stamps as well. we have a work requirement and we stress it every day. in most audiences where i go around the city of new york there are lots of people telling me i shouldn't do that but we still do. >> that you are too ...

It's still in print, still in bookstores. i read this in high school. there was no book that influenced me more, changed more of my thinking than your book when i read it in high school. i want to read you this one passage from your autobiography. you say "in 1952, i was a welfare case and in 1963 i was on a list of famous men. in america with all its evils and faults, you can still reach through the forest and see the sun. but we don't know yet whether that sun is rising or setting in our country." how do you feel about that passage today, dick? is the sun rising or setting? >> it's setting. ...

It. it's still in print, still in bookstores. i read this in high school. there was no book that influenced me more, changed more of my thinking than your book when i read it in high school. i want to read you this one passage from your autobiography. you say "in 1952, i was a welfare case and in 1963 i was on a list of famous men. in america with all its evils and faults, you can still reach through the forest and see the sun. but we don't know yet whether that sun is rising or setting in our country." how do you feel about that passage today, dick? is the sun rising or setting? >> it's setti...

I read this in high school. there was no book that influenced me more, changed more of my thinking than your book when i read it in high school. i want to read you this one passage from your autobiography. you say "in 1952, i was a welfare case and in 1963 i was on a list of famous men. in america with all its evils and faults, you can still reach through the forest and see the sun. but we don't know yet whether that sun is rising or setting in our country." how do you feel about that passage today, dick? is the sun rising or setting? >> it's setting. america is less than one-fifth of the worl...