July. where do we stand? >> i think we're pretty much decided where we are and we await the decision of the independent counsel. we would not recommend an interview for the president unless they can satisfy us that there is some basis for this investigation. it's our firm belief and we think nothing contradicts this if the president did nothing wrong and all the leaking that's gone on, there is no leak of any fact that says the president conspired with anybody in russia and i know from having been on the campaign there was no contact with russians, no discussion with russians so we've got to s...