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You mention others that assisted? >> these are very competent criminal defense lawyers. you can imagine the egos in the room. trying to pull the team together. these guys were tremendous. terrific lawyers. they pitched in on cross-examinations. helped write all of the legal preference material. they constantly, insisted that the i go back and -- redo the stuff that i had written. it was a very, well function team. >> david seems look a reserved quiet guy. you are saying he was a terrific witness? >> he was a heck of a witness. >> larry: they never broke him down? >> david is an honest guy who ...

Over. >> larry: do you get to see your kids? >> on occasions. >> larry: what does your son think of all this? >> i don't talk about it. >> larry: he doesn't? >> it's just a normal, just, having fun, relaxed, normal, normal parent natural fun time. >> larry: what do the other lawyers do in this case. you mention others that assisted? >> these are very competent criminal defense lawyers. you can imagine the egos in the room. trying to pull the team together. these guys were tremendous. terrific lawyers. they pitched in on cross-examinations. helped write all of the legal preference material. the...