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The-- this year, this month's villain of choice, i guess, well point is headquartered in our state. >> cost us jobs there and we're quite proud for uninsured citizens wiped out, and thrown into medicaid along with many, many other citizens and i'm not certain that's a good outcome either for them or for taxpayers. >> paul: most of those would be put on to medicaid under this bill, so, what, 13, 14% of your state on medicaid now, that would expand that substantially. >> we're told to expect maybe a one third expansion, might be more in our case. >> that'd put us 20% over every citizen in indian...

The-- this year, this month's villain of choice, i guess, well point is headquartered in our state. >> cost us jobs there and we're quite proud for uninsured citizens wiped out, and thrown into medicaid along with many, many other citizens and i'm not certain that's a good outcome either for them or for taxpayers. >> paul: most of those would be put on to medicaid under this bill, so, what, 13, 14% of your state on medicaid now, that would expand that substantially. >> we're told to expect maybe a one third expansion, might be more in our case. >> that'd put us 20% over every citizen in indian...

Us a lot of jobs. the-- this year, this month's villain of choice, i guess, well point is headquartered in our state. >> cost us jobs there and we're quite proud for uninsured citizens wiped out, and thrown into medicaid along with many, many other citizens and i'm not certain that's a good outcome either for them or for taxpayers. >> paul: most of those would be put on to medicaid under this bill, so, what, 13, 14% of your state on medicaid now, that would expand that substantially. >> we're told to expect maybe a one third expansion, might be more in our case. >> that'd put us 20% over every...

Control. >> fair enough. don't forget, these companies answer to share holders, and all they care about is profit. united earned $3.8 billion last year. wellpoint took home $3.2 billion, and aetna saw profits of $1.3 billion. the ceo of well point, which owns anthem blue cross earned more than $1 million in salary in 2008 along with stock options valued at $8.5 million. and then ronald williams was paid $38 million. >> the skew tif still sleeping at home not worried about how

>> the focus of the conversation was the individual market and small employer market. clearly that marketplace is not working well. the level of premium increases, the level of mandates underlying the benefit coverages. we recognize as an industry and the secretary and president pointed that as as well. >> neil: what do you think what about what well point was proposing? >> well, what we talked about more broadly was we talked about the need to focus on the underlying cost and rein in the cost -- >> neil: i know what you were talking about. but your own thoughts on that? >> well, to the specif...