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Look, i guess he wanted to do the interview to talk about it. >> we understood as soon as we saw the facts that with no experience he was getting paid $50,000 a month i said before i have constituents fourth district of ohio don't make that every year. everyone got. this they know it's wrong. it is what it is. steve: it is what it is. well-put. let's talk about the impeachment inquiry now day two of week four. because so much of it is behind closed doors. we really don't have a very good idea of what's going on. it's supposed to be secret. i know matt gaetz tried go to one hearing yesterday th...

These meetings where gordon sondland was told by the president, any meeting with me and the president of ukraine has to be approved by rudy giuliani. i mean if you're a republican on capitol hill, how can you take any more? >> michael steele? >> well put, a.b. >> you are laughing. let's take a minute and talk about america's mayor. >> yeah. it is -- it is disappointing and frustrating on so many levels, particularly for a lot of us who have worked with rudy and known him and his brand, if you will, in republican politics. and to watch him, like lindsey graham, just sort of throw it all away at...

Meetings where gordon sondland was told by the president any meeting with me and the prefz ukraine has to be approved by rudy giuliani. if you're a republican on capitol hill, how can you take any more? >> michael steele? >> well put, a.b. >> you're laughing. let's take a minute and talk about america's mayor. >> yeah. it's disappointing on a lot of levels, especially those of us who have known and worked with giuliani and his brand of politics. to watch him, like lindsey graham, throwing it all away at the service and pleasure of donald trump is something astonishing. i'm going to weigh these...

Meetings where gordon sondland was told by the president any meeting with me and the prefz ukraine has to be approved by rudy giuliani. if you're a republican on capitol hill, how can you take any more? >> michael steele? >> well put, a.b. >> you're laughing. let's take a minute and talk about america's mayor. >> yeah. it's disappointing on a lot of levels, especially those of us who have known and worked with giuliani and his brand of politics. to watch him, like lindsey graham, throwing it all away at the service and pleasure of donald trump is something astonishing. i'm going to weigh these...

Reprehensible and we need to get past all that garbage honestly. thank you very much, you guys. >> we shouldn't let this moment pass without thinking dan crenshaw. dan represents a best of the 9/11 generation that rose up to fight islamic terrorism. >> martha: well put, thanks for saying that and thank you for your service, dan crenshaw and all the other men and women who were inspired after 9/11 to sacrifice so much to keep our country safe. my next guest, a former fbi agent who specialized in fighting terrorism in the days after 9/11. he says that the attacks transformed of the fbi into the ...