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And entrepreneurial attitude can succeed. i'm really depressed to see that a whole party seems to be positioning away from that. >> martha: leslie, super quick final document >> it's not a whole party position to weigh, but i think in light of some comments recently made by the president towards four minority individuals who have achieved the american dream, i don't think that some of the fear of hatred along those lines is unwarranted. >> martha: well put, both of you. thank you very much, good to have you here tonight. more of "the story" coming up next. i was there, just not always where i ...

Communities. therein lies the real question -- if you are worried about citizenship participation, why would a citizenship question be a hindrance? if you are more concerned about the idea of noncitizens taking part in the senses and perhaps adding more political power and some congressional districts, therein lies a very major issue. that's something the white house is obviously very concerned about, harris. >> harris: are interesting and well-put, kevin corke. always good to see. let's bring a deputy white house secretary hogan gidley. hogan, always good to see you, as well. i will start wit...

Have tricked donald trump. that in exchange for free, potentially freezing this or doing almost nothing, remember, they haven't destroyed a single missile, single nuclear reactor in exchange for this photo op. they have gotten a kind of legitimacy in the world's eyes. >> walk us through this. we'll keep this up on the screen. the walking, the frenzied videographers and photographers. you're speaking to something that they both share, that both of these leaders care a lot about the pictures that are beamed around the world. >> yes, but kim jong-un understands and has figured out donald trump ca...

>> i don't think it's good. i think markets like free trade. i think economies do best when there's free flow of good and services when countries are getting along. look at the central bank coordination around the world that we've seen. not from our fed but from the icb and the boj. i threw a lot of soup at you, but that is all our other contemporary central banks around the world. we have this coordinated global effort to get economies growing, that tends to be better for the markets. as we talk with china and work out our differences, that will be good for everybody around the globe. >> neil...

Political battle and not something from a legal perspective. >> neil: you think there's people that are genuinely afraid of what might come out? >> i think there's some people, anyone that took efforts to turn a blind eye, so to speak. i've seen some investigators over the years. the top people at the fbi and the doj, they're not those sorts of folks. they're not driven by those sort of politics. >> neil: andrew, thank you. well-put. joining us out of california. it's rare that you see ben carson getting upset. in my brief exchange with him, i think i saw it, after this. oh! oh!