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That assessment and did you agree with it? >> well, larry, i've been doing this work for 30 years, and i have rarely seen a report that was more clear and more unambiguous than the report that dr. carroll did. it was well thought out. well reasoned. he threw up as big a red flag as any psychiatrist possibly could. he was deliberate in his thinking and his analysis and pointed out that this is a man who had no remorse for what he did. he took no responsibility for what he did. and he didn't admit what he did. and doctor -- >> larry: so why did he only serve five years? >> apparently there was a...

You know more conservative at a time when there was still, you know, even decades after john kennedy had been elected president, real skepticism about the possibility of a roman catholic president and, you know whose laws or rules might he be following? and cuomo in a very eloquent, well-reasoned, passionate thrilling speech in some ways explained how he could do both. >> definitely we've not seen his likes since. i'm sure the entire world is rereading a lot of those speeches today with his passing. "new york" magazine chris smith thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. a reid alert on...