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Of outsourcing and getting rid of workers who have pensions and not have some kind of suffering and destabilizing of their community. we have a great economic base in costa mesa. one of the largest shopping centers, south coast plaza. we have a vibrant community. we're coming back very slowly. we're in budget discussions right now. this is just bad planning and poor forethought. >> i wonder, wend y, because i'm running out of time. many people got our pink slips last week. it means their jobs are dissolved, go away come fall. is there any other recourse. might something happen between now and ...

Here is talking about casey taking the stand. we of course don't know if that's going to happen. experts have said over and over that if they are her defense team, they wouldn't allow her to do it. but judge perry has already said that he will give her that option. this is part of her right. so even if her defense disagrees with her taking the stand, she can still speak up and say no, i want to give my testimony of what happened. we don't know what's going to happen. >> thank you so much. so much happening there. let's bring in former prosecutor wendy murphy. wend y, we're seeing a longer than...