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Military career, with his governmental career, and he looked at trump as an aberration and someone who was not a serious person. someone who we had to deal with because ultimately he was elected. and i think when he started taking him more and more seriously is when he saw the demagoguery get out of control, when he saw the autocratic tendencies come to the surface. and, of course, when we saw him early on knocking the p.o.w.s and challenging them, and then ultimately a great disrespect to the military, that cut to the heart of john mccain and his life. and i did mention there i talked to john three times on the day that trump said, mccain is not a hero because he was shot down, and p.o.w.s then weren t heroes. ....
I will tell you, it did not bother him in the least. he just like, okay, whatever. this guy until he started talking to and thinking about his fellow p.o.w.s. and when he thought about them, it s one thing for john mccain to be able to brush this aside, but these are people now who they were up in years, and you were going right at their identity. they were heroes. they are heroes. and they had never heard anyone, anyone anywhere say they weren t heroes until this. now all of a sudden when you re 80 years old you have to defend your actions when you were serving your country? in john s case, 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war. you know, it was a clue to the character of the man. but again, mccain, he shook it off. it didn t really bother him, except as to how it affected others. it reflects how he served as well when he was a p.o.w., ....