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Place -- and they'll find out -- if they didn't take place, it gets to his credibility. do you want a president that makes stuff up? we have a guy in there right now that makes up a lot of stuff. we know the guy in there right now exaggerated some stuff in his biography, and this early years. we know that -- >> but on this issue, on their issue -- >> don't want that. >> general westmore lean is deceased but his wife is alive and doug mcelway cat up to him. she said he couldn't do that. if he met some appealing young man we ha recommended he apply, again presumely to west point. i they consider...

Carson. it's possible, extremely plausible, if he was at a meeting and a ban qwest with general westmoreland, the leading general and people from west point, do they tell you, mr. carson, you are a grade a student, very smart, you are the type of person we want in -- to go to west point and we'll get you in there. i've seen that happen. happens all the time. that's very, very applause -- plausible. did he in fact have a meeting? now, if you go back, there are records of where westmore lean was during the dates that ben carson says he was meeting with him. that's no the detroit. that's a huge p...

>> he said he was offered a scholarship to go to west point. west point generally doesn't give scholarships. people go there for flee. you could say that -- >> you're recommended by under congressman or woman. >> if he melt with westmore lean, smart kid from the inner city with three people from west opinion, they probably offered him a chance to go to west point, that they turn over -- they would break every wall to get him. >> but if he didn't meet with them he has a huge problem. >> we should say, westmoreland's widow done address where they met but it would have been imfor for him to offer...