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National security team mobilized and they came up with a plan. he had five separate national security meetings on this mission since march 14th. the last one was he -- he ordered the raid on friday. it took place at 3:30 p.m. eastern on sunday. so may 1st. >> jennifer griffin, we'll continue to touch base with you as you gather more information throughout the morning live from the pentagon. thank you very much. >> great job. >> meantime, let's bring in fox news terrorism analyst whalid ferris. our own reporter has apparently been on the phone with former pakistani president musharraf and here'...

Now, that's progressive. >> muslim extremists believe in something called the narrative that suggests the world is at war with the u.s. and the west. a former true believer explains the ideology. >> that america is waging a war against islam, invaded iraq because it hates muslims. invaded afghanistan because it hates muslims and the other way to stop this war is for muslims to stop fighting back on all fronts against the west. >> he was talking to leslie stahl last night. we're talking to whalid ferris about this interview.

Inmates captured in miami are linked to the disappearance of a florida state university grad student who vanished earlier this month according to police, one of the men says they may have been involved in the disappearance of 29-year-old vincent binder. binder was last seen on april 2nd. and 133 passengers are back in texas this morning after their flight had to make an emergency landing in iceland. american airlines flight 49 was traveling from paris to dallas/fort worth when five crew members became sick from chemical fumes in the cabin. no one was hurt. mechanics and investigators are exami...

Rise? dr. whalid ferris joins us now and ile join him to talk to him on the set. thank you for coming in to talk to us today. is it just that the groups are in the news more? have they always been around or are they spiking? >> they have always been around. the narrative has always been around. the debate that is happening in the nation in general, the way they understand it is forcing them or pushing them or compelling them to take action. some are going into violence as the group that you just mentioned and others a political process at this point in time. >> shannon: we heard about the grou...

By it teacher? joining us is fox news terrorist analyst and expert dr. whalid ferris. thank you for coming in today. >> sure. >> what do we know or think about whether abdulmutallab was a lone wolf? >> a lone wolf is never alone. it is an army of lone wolfs. that is what al-qaeda would like us to understand so we do not go to the mothership and detroy who is recruiting and indocktry nateing them. if that person in the past has posted and said words and basically indicated there is an ideology this is where we should begin to act. >> we understand he has attended conferences and different thing...