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What do you think was the deciding factor in his case? >> i think he was thinking about his voters. west virginia is a state that overwhelmingly went for donald trump. i remember seeing earlier this week where i believe where manchin was perhaps at a parade in a town in west virginia and voters were incredibly respectful but yelling out at him that they wanted him to support kavanaugh. i remember one gent theman in particular saying "if you vote no, i will not vote for you." i think he wanted to represent the views of his voters rather than the party as a whole. >> do you think because of what...

As i believe mr. gillum said, not a dog whistle but a bull horn. and i think it's a -- you know, i think that's the way this is -- this race is going to go. i mean, this is going to -- this could become a very ugly sort of bare knuckles race in which you see some of the worst tendencies of trumpism just coming to the fore. >> david, i'm curious. somebody you've written critically about donald trump, what eugene is saying there. do you see in those comments from desantis today some of the worst instincts of trumpism? how do you interpret it? >> i really don't. i see him as trying and then bungl...

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Able to answer questions from a legal team? >> he can be coached. will he follow through the coaching, that remains to be seen. i think all of us have seen some of the transcripts when he's in an interview, he tends to answer questions in a way that seems to be quite different from the way that was asked to the degree it brings up the question did any new information that was helpful come out? so i think while i think the president may actually be interviewed, i'm not sure he'll be the person that will provide the most information needed to conclude what happened in the campaign with russia. >...

Millions and millions of dollars through the cayman islands without learning a couple of tricks. so they might not get intercepts of specific nefarious behavior, but it definitely could have occurred in person. we'll see what happens with this investigation. >> drip, drip, drip as they say. eugene, let me ask you about reince priebus because he was interviewed by bob mueller's team on freed. few people were physically closer to the president during the investigation. should the president be worried at this point? >> at this point there's no reason to believe that reince priebus will continue t...