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That however and whenever this ends that ukraine emerges as a free and independent country. we can up the pressure if we were able to create a total embargo on oil and gas. that would hasten or certainly weaken fundamentally putin's capacity to wage war. but, again, you want to stop mass killings. if you can't intervene militarily and we won't, and it is hard for me to admit we shouldn't, then we have to give the ukrainians the power and the capacity in every aspect of what making war really means in order to stop russian advances, and ultimately and here is where it becomes extremely sketchy,...

Blockade, and he says that the hope is, of course, that he won't -- you won't let any flies coming in or out of that azovstal steel plant. that last holdout there and ukraine is being defiant in that steel plant. that is in mariupol. i'll take you slightly west to the southern port city of odesa, we have seen just more shelling today. we have seen one building really collapse today, being hit by intense shelling, looking at some of the images and there have been casualties. eight people killed, 18 wounded. of those eight killed, one was a 3 month baby girl. we have a photo of this baby girl, w...

The table. and the only way to prevent mass atrocity, mass killing, genocide, once it begins, is through the direct intervention with force. no one is recommending, certainly not in the biden administration, it is understandable given as you suggested the risks and the escalatory risks of nuclear confro confrontation. we're left in a twilight zone with mass killings, mass atrocities, and the longer this goes on in eastern ukraine, the more transparent, the more we'll find the human toll has been extraordinary. i just don't think the international community has the will, the cohesion, or in thi...