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Wrong. but there are additional factors involved here. clearly i believe as he does, that the pilot one or both pilots maneuver ared the aircraft and shut down the transponder. but it doesn't discount there might have been a third party that forced them to do it. i think that needs to be considered. >> all right. that's another theory then. but what renner is saying, he's saying that the plan for the plane was put in the computer to fly toward the west or this slow curve the west. not a dramatic turn. that is done 12 minutes before the co-pilot said good night. put those in your theory, michae...

If they attempted, do you know of any success in those attempts? >> i do not. >> okay, so all right. well, we are still going a long way. back to what renner is saying, the slow turn to the west, how many flying miles would it take to accomplish such a turn if you go northeast to directly west? >> it depends on how the turn was made. if the autopilot was connected, the aircraft would roll into a bank and would make the turn to the west. if it was done in a different mode where he had control of the bank, he could get it down to little as five degrees and do it gradual and that would incrose th...

Disappearance, the fbi and justice department offered to assist the maylasian government. >> and a former fa a official believes that the plane was taken off course and diverted before the last contact. >> it was chlor, not only that the transponder was turned off. these planes are built with systems that this type of thing just does not happen. and now with the new points brought up tonight it is 100 percent clear. the pilot or co-pilot took the plane. >> my next guest disagrees. the retired pilot now similar routes. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon. >> what is wrong with what renner ...