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Reported both on msnbc's streaming platform. and now an advisor to the nonpartisan renewed democracy initiative. sam, you and i have covered cuomo for years, it is fascinating the kind of rain it pours. obviously you've got an official investigation with official findings gnat are very damning, but the dynamics here interesting. it really shows if you're going to come to the king you best not miss and if everybody's going to do it, they better all do it together. >> i think everybody sort of decided it was time. and i do think, look, there's an aggregate of things about cuomo that i think folk...

Who are directly tied to him. their donors are cuomo's donors and they are one in the same. so cuomo holds that grip over many of them. of course let's talk about seats in play for a second. that remains to be seen. but when you're looking at the new york state of court of appeals for example you see a chief justice, you see people that are cuomo people. are they going to impeach? that's the question. until the speaker calls a vote for impeachment, this is receiving the same treatment that donald trump received from the very republicans who should have been calling him out. >> right, until the...

I don't know how he can withstand this to be honest with you. >> i don't either. what i thought was interesting was maggie's point i thought was quite incisive from what sam was saying, we know there are tons of republicans who absolutely hate donald trump's guts. yeah, i mean just at a personal level. just like they don't like him. they would love for there to be pay back and they've never taken the leap collectively to do this even though there have been candidate moments like january 6th. but this shows to me it would be done -- there is a universe -- not saying it's going to happen -- in w...

I would have been excite today have somebody i was investigating do something this blatant which to me shows they knew something was wrong if if was done solely for political reasons. and not national security reasons, then that looks terrible. and yes it raises questions. and that's why we're talking about it now because it looks inappropriate. looks like they are trying to cover something up. >> and sam that's certainly was speaker pelosi said. she said it was a cover up. having worked with this system, this code word level system, in order to make something like this happen, in order to tak...

You might have a situation in which white house counsel was aware of this complaint and aware of concerns and was also involved with giving directions to members of the directorate of intelligence to really do something quite irregular with respect to transferring the transcript on to the code word system. at the same time, joke, i am very surprised to hear from the department of justice that attorney general barr did hear about the contents of this call until reportedly weeks after it happened. the department of justice issued that as a statement a few days ago. that would be another gross ir...