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Continue, even under a government shutdown, but what happens in the irs? last shutdown 90% of irs workers were furloughed. you have a new tax law and you have talked about the irs needing to do its job at full strength to get this job done before tax time. how is this not going to mess up as what the administration pointed to as its one big accomplishment in 2017? >> we also -- >> the biggest, let's say. as you have said. >> more circuit court judges than any year in american history. let's put that aside and recognize there was a lot done. i believe that's the root of the shutdown. i think th...

The erosion of trust. how does senator schumer trust in this moment, in this time, in the partisan world we live in that if he gets nine democrats to vote, he will get something on the issue he's been promised when they are, as the president has talked about, seems to be such little trust between the parties right now. >> erosion of trust, but the larger point is we're focusing on schumer, schumer, schumer, schumer doesn't control the senate. democrats don't control the house. republicans control the house, senate, and white house, and the administration officials that i talk to at the white h...

Rocking. what has to happen in the next 13 hours and 49 minutes to prevent a shutdown? what's realistic that could happen? >> the easiest thing that could happen is that schumer and mcconnell go into a room and say, okay, we're going to do this and schumer brings people onboard. that's the easiest thing, because that's the bill they have. doesn't look like that's going to happen. doesn't look like they are going to agree to the five-day c.r. situation, so we're in a situation where the house leadership and the senate leadership needs to get into a room and figure out what can pass in both cham...

Situation with c.h.i.p. is way easier for people to understand than a situation of a full-on government shutdown. you have millions of kids on a program where the government helps pay for them to have health care, and it is almost criminal they haven't figured this out already. but to use it, and i'm going to do it, as a bargaining chip -- >> you did it. >> sorry, but they are trying to use it as a bargaining chip, as well as a sword, and what schumer is saying, it's not enough. we're going to get that done any way it goes. c.h.i.p. is not the hard conversation, daca is the hard conversation, ...

Good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. we're following major developments this morning on capitol hill. take a look what's going on right now on your left. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is going to appear before the house judiciary committee for a hearing that might have been routine, except for, well, except for a lot of things. except for the mueller investigation, that more and more republicans are seeing as, well, not totally independent. so they'll pose some tough questions to him. on the right of your screen, at any moment, a news conference from top senat...