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Investigate and do the research on the project they needed to do and they ended up uncovering this kind of information. they didn't go in looking necessarily, according to simpson, for a russian connection. this is something they uncovered in the process. >> michael, it was just last week that republican chairman chuck grassly and senator lindsey graham issued a criminal referral to the justice department urging an investigation into whether steele lied. what does this all say about the congressional investigations versus a special counsel's investigation? >> well, it tells you the special cou...

No harm should come to anybody related to this honest work, according to joshua levi, simpson's lawyer there. we've spoken to someone who is familiar with the testimony. this is not because he has specific information that one particular person was killed because of the publication. this relates to, and don, you and i have talked about this a little bit, in the weeks and months following the dossier's being made public there's been nine or ten suspicious deaths you might say of russian officials, diplomats, et cetera some who were connected to or involved in the dossier, et cetera, have died u...

Counsel for the committee -- after steele found out what he put in these memos, he approached you about taking this information to specifically the fbi. simpson responded, that's my recollection. and sawyer said, that request or idea came from mr. steele and not anyone else? simpson said, that's right. if that testimony is to be believed, the claim that the clinton campaign prompted steele or fusion gps to go to the fbi doesn't necessarily stand up. we also should point out here that despite a lot of misinformation by republican lawmakers, the dossier did not solely spark the investigation at ...

Shared with the osstraliaustral ambassador. and the australian ambassador thought it was interesting enough that he went and shared it with the fbi. you have christopher steele who reported this information to the fbi. none of them felt compelled to the go to the u.s. law enforcement. >> steele was so worried about what he uncovered that he felt he needed to go to the fbi. wasn't that exactly the right thing to do? >> i think it was. and when you look at simpson's testimony and you walk through the process that they actually took to get to the point of hiring christopher steele, what they did ...

According to joshua levi, simpson's lawyer there. this is not because he has specific information that one particular person was killed because of the publication. this relates to, and don, you and i have talked about this a little bit, in the weeks and months following the dossier's being made public there's been nine or ten suspicious deaths you might say of russian officials, diplomats, et cetera some who were connected to or involved in the dossier, et cetera, have died under mysterious circumstances. and i should emphasize this is purely a question, were any of them being punished for the...