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One way or another he's going to end up in that hot seat short of invoking the fifth amendment. because what starr did with clinton was serve a subpoena, and that's what i assume mueller will do when he gets to the point in his investigation when he needs that information. it's going to be a disaster for trump. >> carrie, a source from the president's legal team said the president got a little ahead of himself about whether he would meet with the special counsel team in the russia investigation. who has the upper hand here? is it trump or is it mueller? >> i think the special counsel has a lot...

Dreaming about doing it as a set of written questions which some of the news stories have floated, but i can't imagine the situation in which mueller or his people would accede to that. >> so quickly, realistically, you expect an interview similar to what they did, what starr did with bill clinton? >> well, so, starr's interview with clinton was actually a grand jury testimony that was done by videoconference from the white house. the accomodation that starr made to clinton was that his lawyers were present. i think this is likely to be an interview. i suspect it will be conducted not by the a...