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There was a security issue about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed. in addition to this, simpson also testified that somebody in the fbi had essentially believed what steele was saying because of an inside source, a trump campaign source, who had been giving them similar information. we have since learned that source referred to an australian diplomat passed information about the former trump campaign adviser, george papadopoulos, and discussions he had with the russians, and papadopoulos has since pleaded guilty of lying to the fbi about the contacts with the russians. at...

Some of what steele had told them in the dossier. saying this, my understanding was that they believed chris might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the trump organization. our jim sciutto is now saying that's george papadopoulos and when going out for drinks with someone. do you think that the fbi saw steele as a incredible source, undermines the president's assertion that steele was a fake spy whose dossier is part of a sweeping political witch-hunt? >> well, i don't think -- yo...

They're now talking about that among other points that are being made here. that you had the call made to the fbi from christopher steele because he felt obligated to call. not a bunch of bs and garbage, as trump and his allies would have people believe. >> that's right. what people have to remember, who are thinking this is all partisan is steele approaches the fbi before donald trump is president, and he also assumes none of this is going to be public because it's a counterintelligence investigation. so the idea he's doing this for some political gain or to support some political party is be...

Steele told him that there was a person inside the trump organization, the trump campaign, who had been communicating with the fbi whistleblower of sorts, a source, about some of this same issues. and an according to steele's testimony, the fbi viewed what steele said as credible, in part, because it also was consistent with what this trump campaign source had been telling them separately. now, in addition to this, fusion gps co-founder glen symptom gims into detail to say he understands how this works, and allegations that may not be true. he would be someone who is fully worked on these issu...

Information to the fbi as soon as he learned it and you cannot say the same thing about the trump campaign, and there's an effort to show the trump was doing opposition research by meeting with the russians, and what steele did was gather from russian sources that he gained there, and the difference is that christopher steele bypassed fusion gps entirely, and now the question is why didn't the trump do the same thing? >> i would love to be a fly on the wall between john mccain and lindsay graham about this. it's a very strange turn of events. up next, the lovefest for the stable genius conti...