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Oversight hearing true. as you can imagine, the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, pounced in a series of tweets today. among them, he said this. "i have never asked for a pardon from mr. trump." as lawyer lanny davis has said he, cohen, directed his attorney to explore a pardon. you just heard me tell you that. "never means never, ever, not after july 2nd, 2018, which is the latest deception. another perjury and more prison." giuliani added another tweet, "what a tangled web we weave when he first practice to deceive. "by his count their nursery perjury's but the real question remains, will c...

Word is. and never before, john this is consistent with the old adage, what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive. that's what happens. >> it is tangled. the president says things that are hard to decipher. however, it could be possible, could it not, that michael cohen was serving as a lawyer for the president in the stormy daniels matter but never told the president about the $130,000. >> i don't think that's possible. i just don't. i don't think it is possible. i don't think it is probable. but, look, we'll get the president under oath and he's going to raise his right hand and...

You know about the $130,000 payment. let's listen one more time. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment? then why did michael cohen make it if there was no -- >> you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. you'll have to ask michael. >> he said he doesn't know. he said he doesn't know about the $130,000 payment. he never said there that michael cohen didn't represent me as he put it today in the crazy stormy daniels thing. is it a contradiction? >> no, but michael cohen said previously, he's been unequivocal about this, that the president knew nothing about it, that he did it...

Where was he? he apparently wasn't paying attention to these reports or being deceitful. >> well, you know, what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive. what we have got here is the president says one thing and then he moves it in one direction and then another. you have almost got to read into it. what you read into it he really is a bystander president. primary domestic situation. legacy. what he wants to leave country. what he wants to be remembered by. he knows. this he has been briefed on this and nothing was done. >> he says he is never going to run for office. he can't...