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Remarkable impact in getting people signed up to vote, in raising money, by some measures, they outspent the nra in the 2018 midterms. could that be the beginning of the end of the nra's stranglehold on politics? >> well, we'll see. i mean, what you have to see is an election that's the converse of what a.b. described earlier in 1994. you have to see an election in which they actually demonstrate their muscle and punish people who don't vote the way they want them to vote. and that's when lawmakers will sit up and take notice. if there's no consequence to voting against them, then they're goin...

And allies to build this narrative there was this wild surveillance of trump and his associates. there were conversations between fisa targets and other people foreigners or trump associates themselves during which names of trump campaign officials, et cetera, family members, were caught up in this. it's the wide dissemination that is a problem, potentially a crime. susan rice has a credibility problem. devin nunes has a credibility problem. so this is very muddied waters here at this point. but it's important for people to know that what jim points out in his reporting, this is not only legal...

Budget office are due any time now to update the finances of this deal, right? >> except that they haven't necessarily gotten the complete legislative language to do their analysis that's part of what a.b. is talking about. >> bill: not sure that's going to come at all. >> they want it to come at some point. if they get to friday and nancy pelosi hasn't got the votes, the only other alternative would be to use this deeming pass process to essentially get around the -- >> bill: you are smarter than i am. everybody knows that. all right? you can't tell me you are going to stand there and say tha...

Budget office are due any time now to update the finances of this deal, right? >> except that they haven't necessarily gotten the complete legislative language to do their analysis that's part of what a.b. is talking about. >> bill: not sure that's going to come at all. >> they want it to come at some point. if they get to friday and nancy pelosi hasn't got the votes, the only other alternative would be to use this deeming pass process to essentially get around the -- >> bill: you are smarter than i am. everybody knows that. all right? you can't tell me you are going to stand there and say tha...

Budget office are due any time now to update the finances of this deal, right? >> except that they haven't necessarily gotten the complete legislative language to do their analysis that's part of what a.b. is talking about. >> bill: not sure that's going to come at all. >> they want it to come at some point. if they get to friday and nancy pelosi hasn't got the votes, the only other alternative would be to use this deeming pass process to essentially get around the -- >> bill: you are smarter than i am. everybody knows that. all right? you can't tell me you are going to stand there and say tha...