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I mean, i think the concern is though, especially for guy and my generation, i don't even know what a nuclear arms race would look or feel like. harris: i think we're like what e. mac said -- liz: terrifying. meghan: i think the point that e. mac is making is very well warranted. just reading it on twitter gives me anxiety. the talk that he was talking about -- the fact that he was talking about this in a phone call off air, just clarify yourself. a new sheriff in town, it's not going to be like president obama -- liz: it's called the, quote, madman policy that started with truman and went thr...

World in the d.c. elite media? yes, with sean spicer and his team. harris: now, we were told last week to expect something a bit more traditional, and that's that first news conference from the president-elect in 2017. so you need a team like this in place to be able to handle the infrastructure of what that will look like, i would imagine. >> yeah. so i'm all for this idea of keeping some of the important traditions like that opening press conference, like having the daily press briefing which it sounds like they're going to keep, but i also can get behind this notion of let's innovate a litt...