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Opponent to le pen has is there's the warning from the hillary clinton campaign so they know that this is coming. >> you saw in that dutch election that you just mentioned that the dutch in order to prevent russian meddling, they went old school. there were no computers used in the recent election. it was only after the u.s. blamed russia for hacking during the presidential election, the netherlands announced it was dropping computerized voting entirely. they had 82% turnout and the putin candidate went down in flames. >> very hard. and this is a lesson for the united states to be learning fro...

That something's not working. i think that's a politically damaging moment. >> they'll admit that the business mandate was poorly written, that they normally would have sought a legislative fix, what e.j. was talking about. but they can't get a legislative fix out of the house. but the bigger issue here i think for the administration is that they don't seem -- they've got to build all this, they know that -- they thought that republicans after the election would basically concede this is going to be the law of the land and they would be in the mode of, okay, we he'll try and fix it, try to get...

Damaging moment. >> they'll admit that the business mandate was poorly written, that they normally would have sought a legislative fix, what e.j. was talking about. but they can't get a legislative fix out of the house. but the bigger issue here i think for the administration is that they don't seem -- they've got to build all this, they know that -- they thought that republicans after the election would basically concede this is going to be the law of the land and they would be in the mode of, okay, we he'll try and fix it, try to get as much as we can to change it in ways that we think busin...

About. but they can't get a legislative fix out of the house. but the bigger issue here i think for the administration is that they don't seem -- they've got to build all this, they know that -- they thought that republicans after the election would basically concede this is going to be the law of the land and they would be in the mode of, okay, we'll try and fix it, try to get as much as we can to change it in ways that we think business wants to change or change in ways we think will make it a little less bureaucratic and things like that. but they're not getting them. you could argue that t...

They're not going to have majorities in either house to repeal it and in fact president obama would never sign that. so it's going to be messy. it's going to be politically contentious. but in the end it's going to work out the way it works out. and, you know, if it's a big bust, then there's political problems down the road. but it's going to happen. >> but for it to work, the exchanges have to take place, and state after state now, run by republican governors and republican legislatures are trying to roll back or have rolled back or saying that won't participate. and you have to have a certa...