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Much of that period. >> jim: yes. >> anthony: outside of whatever bowie was doing, what was it like in west berlin at that time? >> jim: it was like pressure cooking. you know, it was like pressure cooking. west berlin was surrounded by the wall, and there were just three roads leading to west berlin and they were controlled by the russians, basically. >> anthony: so, why would a walled city, surrounded by hostile forces, be such a hot house for art, music and free expression? >> jim: west berlin was always very international. we had people that were flying in from all walks of life. artists f...

That's a big advantage. and a funny thing is, when you have that sort of visionary pregnancy that you say, "something's going to come, something's going to fall from the sky," it does. >> anthony: now back in the early '70s when david bowie arrived, a lot of people don't realize that berlin was surrounded, i mean it was essentially an island during much of that period. >> jim: yes. >> anthony: outside of whatever bowie was doing, what was it like in west berlin at that time? >> jim: it was like pressure cooking. you know, it was like pressure cooking. west berlin was surrounded by the wall, an...

And a funny thing is, when you have that sort of visionary pregnancy that you say, "something's going to come, something's going to fall from the sky," it does. >> anthony: now back in the early '70s when david bowie arrived, a lot of people don't realize that berlin was surrounded, i mean it was essentially an island during much of that period. >> jim: yes. >> anthony: outside of whatever bowie was doing, what was it like in west berlin at that time? >> jim: it was like pressure cooking. you know, it was like pressure cooking. west berlin was surrounded by the wall, and there were just three ...

>> jim: yes. >> anthony: outside of whatever bowie was doing, what was it like in west berlin at that time? >> jim: it was like pressure cooking. you know, it was like pressure cooking. west berlin was surrounded by the wall, and there were just three roads leading to west berlin and they were controlled by the russians, basically. >> anthony: so, why would a walled city, surrounded by hostile forces, be such a hot house for art, music and free expression? >> jim: west berlin was always very international. we had people that were flying in from all walks of life. artists from all genres were h...

And yet, the music that he made here was very different from anything he'd done before. what do you think he found here that was good for him? >> jim: well, he lived a pretty low profile life in berlin, i have to say that. he could be anonymous here, like everybody admired him, but nobody talked to him. that's a big advantage. and a funny thing is, when you have that sort of visionary pregnancy that you say, "something's going to come, something's going to fall from the sky," it does. >> anthony: now back in the early '70s when david bowie arrived, a lot of people don't realize that berlin was...