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Again, they can score political points. is that a smart strategy? >> i think it's unrealistic. i don't think that any republican embarrassment over this shutdown andño' the drop in the favorability of the partyxdñr does not mean they're going to go along with whateverñiv wants sufficient to get a bill on immigration reform, sufficient to get a budget deal and who knows about the farm bill. when the president is standing there talking about the farm bill being one of his major elements, that shows youhow -- >> it also includes food stamps. >> i know it does. i think the kweupbdz are in a str...

Again, they can score political points. is that a smart strategy? >> i think it's unrealistic. i don't think that any republican embarrassment over this shutdown andño' the drop in the favorability of the partyxdñr does not mean they're going to go along with whateverñiv wants sufficient to get a bill on immigration reform, sufficient to get a budget deal and who knows about the farm bill. when the president is standing there talking about the farm bill being one of his major elements, that shows you how -- >> it also includes food stamps. >> i know it does. i think the kweupbdz are in a st...