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Know, you lay it out very succinctly what sugars and and where they're hidden. why don't you go into that right now. what is sugar? >> well, here's the deal. there's so much out there now about watch the sugar, no more than five added teaspoons. but that's actually not the issue. it's not about no sugar. it's about lowering your sugar impact. and sugar is sneaking into some of the craziest places. we think we're doing everything right. we're eating low fat, eating whole grains. but a piece of wheat bread can raise your blood sugar more than table sugar. it's really understanding which foods cr...

Little boy in montana who cut out all soda pop, all fruit juice, all kinds of drinks including water that has sugar water, fruit water, for a year. and juices. he made $500. if you did it with your kids give them $500 if for a year they don't have sugar. the fda has come out now saying if you are in a restaurant with more than 20 chain restaurants has to put on the label of the food exactly what the calories are, the sugar content, the salt content and alcohol beverages aren't excluded which is important. people don't realize full bodied beer, blue moon or sam adams, over 150 calories. light b...

Example. >> why is that? >> i looked at looking at sugar differently and that it's not so much about the sugar in the food, but what that sugar is doing to you. depending on the types of sugar, say a processed wheat bread or skim milk, these things could have a dramatic impact on raising blood sugar and raising insulin and actually making you crave foods even more. so, it's really looking at sugar differently. not just glycemic index, but looking at the load of sugar, looking at insulin. looking at fructose and then contrasting those with fiber and nutrient density. that means something like b...

Would eat? this is stuff we do have in the house and i do not overpolice my kids knowing that the one that are overpoliced go to their friends house. >> exactly. it's so strict. >> there is enough variety. >> whatever happens, they're losing 100 grand a pop trying to lose from this. something went wrong. what should they do to fix it. >> first, they could have a program like this but a variety. offer a variety of things. kids are people too. one day you want a hamburger. >> sure, string beans, arugula. >> that's how it works. >> the kids reacted so violently. they weren't eating food. >> becau...

Fritos, too. i don't see why it takes that much more money a regulation and paperwork to introduce healthy food in schools. of course there should be apples and wheat bread. i don't see -- >> how do you make them eat it? >> you can't make them eat it but it should be there for them to try it. >> can't believe charles compared school children to horses. i'm outraged on behalf of school children across the country. >> outrage on behalf of the horses. they're more disciplined. >> everybody likes fruit juice. we agree there. if you look at the obama administration own number from the office of inf...