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Why hasn't he made that clear, oral argument? we have to help people, get them out of the emergency room, self-respect. primary care and take care of themselves and be responsible. we can't do it as long as they are showing up for three, four hours showing up in the emergency room. why doesn't he make that case instead of getting into the weeds? >> i think he is making that case. but you are right, chris. to the extent that we said to people all along and i think it was strategic and the right to say if you like what you have, you can keep it. if you like your doctor, you can still see him. bu...

30 million people get some kind of subsidy so they can have health care as well. does that sound too socialistic? why hasn't he made that clear, moral argument? we have to help people, get them out of the emergency room, give them some self-respect. primary care and take care of themselves, be self-reliant to an extent and be responsible. we can't do it as long as they are showing up for three, four hours showing up in the emergency room. why doesn't he make that case instead of getting into the weeds? that's what i think. >> i think he is making that case, but you're right, chris. to the exte...