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That are positive for us stay in effect in our state houses. so there's a sort of broad infrastructure question that the party needs to address. there's this fight that we want our leaders to fight. we saw this when there were questions about accountability in the first trump impeachment. are we going to actually do this? i understand the need and desire to focus on process, but sometimes i look back and say why are we the only ones playing by the rules? we want to get anything done, we've got to force the change. >> if you take voting rights or reproductive freedoms, democrats feel like they'...

Including criminal prosecution, to prevent the law from being enforced and to reduce its chilling effects. the fight to protect abortion rights in america and questions about the political potency of republicans beginning the process of overturning roe v. wade is where we start this hour. former senator claire mccaskill is here, also joining us, alexi mccammond, political reporter for axios, and matt miller is back, former chief spokesman for the justice department. lucky for us, all three msnbc contributors. claire, what do you make of the state of affairs here on this labor day? >> well, the...

Five-year-old. if we can't get them in the classroom, in the playgrounds, on the teams because their community refuses to vaccine, refuses to wear masks or governor bans mask wearing in the state, it's going to be consistently dangerous, going to be outbreaks. we're seeing more kids hospitalized across the country and subset of them experiencing severe disease. >> laurie, what do you -- what can you help us understand about where the fda is in terms of boosters, where approval process is in terms of vaccines for kids under 12? >> what a mess! my god. if there's anything that's been mishandled ...

Putting somebody in the driver's seat at fda. second of all, actual application from pfizer, my understanding, it's 100,000 pages long. you can't read that and come up with a detailed analysis of all the issues that you want to raise if you're one of the scientific unpaid advisers that are supposed to tell the fda yes or no, you can't read 100,000 pages in a few days. this is -- and then right behind them comes moderna, they're going to have another 100,000 pages, and so on. this is a huge process. and we don't have a reliable system in place for rapidly reviewing such proposals and reaching c...

Expect is y'all keep winning. all i see is president capable of blocking out the noise. what he did on covid relief was transformational. but in the senate i see paralysis and obsession with process. this texas ban happened with obsession with policies. democrats are wrapped around the axle of process and i wonder how you switch that. >> it is a problem because on the one hand we are -- i go back to earlier point in talking about fairness, we think about process. but at the same time i look at -- what's happened in texas, attempt to roll back voting rights in this country, already happened, an...