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As a destructive device, which is a functioning destructive device, there are federal statute the individual can be charged with. if it is a hoax device, there are federal statutes the individual can still be charged with. it doesn't matter whether it's real or not real. what does matter is how the general public reacts to this. let me take you back to the bach te -- bomb tech. he's looked at this, decided i don't need to disrupt it on site, i can move this to a location via my robot and explore it further. i guarantee you the one that came out of your building yesterday has already been explo...

Device safe or maybe i can move that device to another place. as a bomb technician, looking at the x-rays, what i'm seeing is possible hazardous material inside of a pipe i should be concerned about. let's make that perfectly clear. it could be explosives, it could be pyrotechnics. there's something there. but what i'm not seeing is going to drive what do i with this thing. i'll tell you straight up what i'm not seeing is enough means to initiate this device, whether by design, whether by accident, i'm not seeing that. >> so what does that tell you about motivation? >> well, if i'm going by de...

Tell me what you know about this powder. >> we're told from law enforcement sources in between hits here that the initial testing was done on that suspicious powder. authorities don't believe it's anthrax or any kind of known biological agent but we're told testing will continue over the coming days to determine what exactly that is. as we speak right now, this device is en route in an fbi bomb truck moving down the eastern seaboard from new york, down to the fbi's laboratory at quantico virginia. we know that the cnn device is currently being transported. one other interesting tidbit we're le...

Obviously law enforcement is not going to act like that and they're going to keep looking. but so far nothing new today. >> go ahead, tony, quickly. >> quickly, okay, the question in everybody's mind is we've got ten device, why no explosion? what does that mean? that means that the 11th device could explode. the bomber could be changing his design. he's lured us into a false sense of security. let not go there. let's treat every device individually and exploit it. >> i think shimon hit it on the money, that no one should act like this whole thing is over. gentlemen, i appreciate every single ...

Vote "yes" on c. big corporations pay for it, not you. got a little bit of news here on one of these devices, this is according to josh campbell, former fbi who just got seated. we're learning this device that was sent to us here at cnn in new york is actually now en route to the fbi lab on quantico, virginia, for further testing. which is what you were saying, josh campbell, that that's where they would be taken to be taken apart to determine how they were made and presumably figure out who made them.