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Hill, if you l so they can look down and see what the permanent state of solution will look like. we are told no specific details but we are told this is designed to be completed by the end of april, that it will address all of the core issues, the borders, whether jerusalem can be a capital for both states, the right of return policy of refugees. all of this will be addressed but i think the state department officials are playing down at the moment of getting an agreement right now. >> certainly, there have been years and yeahhe of turmoil he. what is the likelihood, nic, do you know, of thi...

Democrats on middle east policy. that's been my position for a long time. this is a tempest in a teapot. the overwhelming democratic position is just that. >> not the party platform though. >> when what's the president's position. >> it's not in the party's platform i don't know why it is or is not. >> what's the president's position. >> the presidential president is for a strong israel. >> what's the president's position on the capital. >> i don't know. >> you know what his position is, don't you? >> no, i don't. >> bill: yes, he does. he knows. >> i take him at his word. >> bill: schumer doe...

To hamas. in foreign aid. and. >> bill: to try to buy them to back off. you know how the game is played. trying to buy the egyptians now. >> so they claim. i know the billion in forgiveness to egypt. the point is, it is to me very significant that the president went so far as to say i want jerusalem back in but not i want hamas back in. >> bill: does he not need the jewish vote in florida? isn't that what this is all about. >> i think he is so -- i believe he thinks jews don't care about israel. he is he so mesmerized by his observe bias toward the palestinians that i just think he can't help ...

Disto joe biden. >> joe biden normally would have spoken this night. he is not the most super star surrogate speaker or the kibitzer in chief as clinton. what clinton can say on behalf of barack obama, is he going to make the case that barack obama shares the same philosophy about the economy that bill clinton had and which led to clinton's success and if you just give barack obama more time it will produce similar results in essence. >> bill: all right. i don't know. the two of them ran a totally different economic profile. all right. well, we will listen. >> very true. >> bill: okay, roberts...

You were fainting surprise and indignation you can't imagine a major party being dominated by a fringe. >> bill: what does it say about the leader of the democratic party and leader of the united states barack obama that he and his guys allow fringe people, you just described them that way, to put forth a party platform? what does it say. >> first of all i don't think the people putting forth those two particular issues are necessarily fringe. >> bill: you just said they were. >> actually i was quoting your language from the talking points. it's important position to take and vital position. v...