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Criticism discouraged, lack of delegation -- >> that does sound like we have been doing in the trumping podcast which is a podcast we're doing with pro publica. >> at the small family business they ran. >> people who work there have said to us that it was seat of the pants. it was chaos. there was a story one of his former employees told us how he went to hong kong to meet with financiers and donald trump hired someone else to set up a meeting with the very people his staff were meeting with. this has been a constant theme. the questions raised who is making sure that the interests of the nati...

Understand the significance of the powers he holds as commander in chief. >> david's talking about carelessness and carelessness obviously was the critique you saw from the president there. there's also the question from jared kushner if there was something more than carelessness. marcy wheeler is a national security journalist and wrote this piece, mueller appears to be assessing whether kushner was actually serving the interests of his family and foreign governments. do you think he has criminal exposure at this moment? >> i think he has a lot of criminal exposure. and that is certainly one ...

Kushner acting in, whose interest is president trump acting in. it's because of a structural instability not necessarily because of any particular thing. >> that's a great point. who is doing the jobs and who are they working for, richard. you were just nodding your head. >> yes. this is a way you run a banana republic. you have a strong man and his family are running everything. and making a lot of money in their bys. and who make sure that ought government officials are loyal to them. and it's easy to core are up those types of countries i guess that's the direction these people want to take...

Day when we are facing new threats from russia, when we are facing evolving threats from north korea, facing an evolving middle east crisis, we have a president who does not understand the significance of the powers he holds as commander in chief. >> david's talking about carelessness and carelessness obviously was the critique you saw from the president there. there's also the question from jared kushner if there was something more than carelessness. marcy wheeler is a national security journalist and wrote this piece, mueller appears to be assessing whether kushner was actually serving the i...

They said autocratic leader employees operate in fear, loyalty exalted overall, family members untouchable, frank criticism discouraged, lack of delegation -- >> that does sound like we have been doing in the trumping podcast which is a podcast we're doing with pro publica. >> at the small family business they ran. >> people who work there have said to us that it was seat of the pants. it was chaos. there was a story one of his former employees told us how he went to hong kong to meet with financiers and donald trump hired someone else to set up a meeting with the very people his staff were me...