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Has to have signal will a trial where both sides call witnesses and it is witnesses. not watching, and that means the american pub lib essentially gets a full viewing to be able to make it's own decision and that is exactly what donald trump does not. it's not just the taint of an impeachment vote out of the house. it is a trial of a senate. it's not a criminal trial. all of the evidence of abuse of power and authority they can charge those things and e even a ma yourty of republicans are polling that we need to hear from mueller, from mcgahn. so the public interest from

Donald trump jr. who are having these negotiations in which they are reluctant or like mcgahn refusing to appear because the white house doesn't want them do. if an impeachment were to be empanelled would that be clear? >> in short answer, yes. in the two opinions in the last week, you could force subpoenas to get facts from deutsche bank or trumps accountants on the theory they might be relevant to a lot of legislation. when it comes to hearing from mcgahn, hope hicks, mueller, it is much harder to make the case that you need that stuff.

They are already preceding a pace with investigations and they should just continue doing that because those are happening. the chairman of one of those committees, the chairman of the house judiciary committee was on with my colleague on thursday. one of the things people have said is before we get to impeachment, the american public should hear from robert mueller. that should happen first. here is what chairman nadler said about whether mueller is willing to be a part of that process. >> mueller, i think i can say at this point, he wants to testify in private. >> why? >> i don't know why. h...

Found ten episodes of obstruction of justice. so we look at these 29 ongoing investigations now, there is every reason to think that he faces huge financial league jeopardy. >> would the impeachment hearing force those investigations to stop? >> absolutely nop. it is a remedy to remove the president from office. after he is remauved from office robert mueller reminds us he could be tried. he could be put on trial. the only rp he eason he is not jail with michael cohen is because he is the president. >> he seems to be freaking out, take a listen. >> they don't feel they can win the lix, so they...

Documents and evidence, so they can haul people like robert mueller into the house chambers, put him on national television and tell them, it's one thing to read the mueller report, it's another thing to hear this guy who looks like the prosecutor on "law & orderese" with all of th gravity talking about these ten different counts of obstruction of justice. >> what do you make of the fact robert mueller doesn't want to do that? it seems clear jerry nadler doesn't want to testify in public, he just wants to go in private and have a tricht come out? >> i hauled so many people in front of the gran...