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Business. we do not know what else he was asked about. we also don't know whether there were any follow-up interviews. you can see fabrizio is going in and out of the special counsel's office there. our reporters stand there, keep an eye on the office were the ones who noticed this. so the question is, wolf, did any of this go back to the president? the president himself was asked about whether he knew that manafort had provided this information to the russians. take a listen to what he had to sa say. >> do you know paul manafort was sharing polling data from your campaign to the russians? >> ...

A big problem here and that mueller knows a lot more than anybody else does right now. >> well, this goes back -- look, this filing, sahil, is about obviously manafort is trying to say we have been cooperating with you. don't think this is all about fight, you know, whether mueller wants to tear up the cooperation agreement and basically shove him in jail. this filing also seems to describe that mr. manafort -- that confinement is harming mr. manafort's health. >> this comes around the same time a doj indictment of a russian lawyer where manafort was at the time. two people of potential intere...

Has been any interference with the investigation? >> none of that. the reason for that we now know, up until yesterday whitaker was not exercising the oversight role. rosenstein was. now that the memo has been written by the department of justice, matt whitaker has made clear he will over see the investigation, until former attorney general, bill barr, is confirmed as the next attorney general. let me read you the statement from bill barr, the letter he wrote, the recommendations he had to say about the mueller investigation and we will talk about that, the memo that they were talking about. i...

So mueller's obstruction theory is fatally misconceived. mueller's obstruction theory is fatally mi fatally misconceived. that's the opinion of the person that might be the next attorney general. i don't know how he knows mueller's theory, but if he does it's fatally misconceived. >> let me start by agreeing with ken about one thing. bill barr is a very dextinguishd attorney, and he served honorably, and that was then. then we have a situation as a private lawyer he volunteered to send a 19-page memo denouncing robert mueller in the most important ethical issue that the new attorney general is...

General, matt whitaker, decided he should not recuse himself from the special counsel's russia investigation. an official advised otherwise, but in a letter to congressional leaders, dog leaders say whitaker has a lot of respect for mueller. joining us to discuss, the author, kenneth star, and cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. i think we under explained what happened. matthew whitaker decided not to ask for an official ethics he view because? >> he was going to get an official to recuse himself. >> instead he asked for the opinion. the opinion tells him there's no legal conflict here. y...