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Team hopes to get some understanding of the next steps and if the investigation is almost over. meanwhile the president's leaving open the possibility of pardoning michael flynn who's pleaded guilty of lying to the fbi about his conversations with a russian ambassador. flynn as you know is now cooperating with mueller in the investigation. here's what he said when asked about pardoning michael flynn. >> i don't want to talk about pardons for michael flynn yet. i can say this. when you look at what's gone on with the fbi and the justice department, people are very, very angry. >> earlier tonigh...

Not he will pardon someone or not. >> he is making mueller's job a lot easier in the sense he starts to answer a question by saying i'm not going to talk about it and goes there. i also wouldn't take off the table the possibility of a mueller firing. >> you really think so? >> again, who am i to say this is going to happen? i just think you can see the wheels turning not just the administration but also from those that support the president for at least setting up the stage of possibly questioning whether mueller is capable of conducting a fair and thorough investigation. >> mark, do you think...

Are preparing for that day. >> do you think this is -- the white house likes to say this is in the final stretch. do you believe that? >> i do believe it, because i believe that the the entire thing ultimately is actually not going to get -- in in other words, i believe the people that are in opposition to the donald trump have high hopes that this is going to lead to him leaving office, or his removal. it's impossible for me to see how that is the outcome off this. if anything, the interest in the theater of this is probably peaked and will diminish. beyond actually whether they can get to a ...

Report or whatever he gives to them. these other three points are the criminal points, and that is where people will really face the fire. that is where the four people already who have gotten in trouble. >> do you think there's any chance that there's enough there there with what you just described that it actually compromises the president? >> this is the thing -- >> it's unknowable. >> they had 400,000 pages, 2,000 were hot or whatever that means. the one good thing about mueller, he's not leaking the way people want him to leak. the investigation is kind of tight. so we have no clue what h...

You vet them appeared to so i don't know how this wasn't vetted to begin with. whether mueller and now he is pulling them off, i think we need to scratch everybody and starts with a brand-new team. >> neil: how do you handle that in your office? when you have people around you, obviously, lawyers, people who have strong opinions. that is to be expected. everyone has a political persuasion, most people. so how do you believe -- not to force a political viewpoint on people, how do you convey to them a look at, i want you to go about what you're doing, and if you see malfeasance, to get it out th...