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City of jobs in this country. second, it is point of progressivism. in order to change soerl nocial, the president said i want to fundamentally change america and these disincentives to work are part of it. >> i understand the need and what we were told the purpose of obamacare to try to reach out and help the millions of people now uninsured. but do we want to make it a government policy? make a government policy to offer in-scentives for people t work less or not at all? >> what we're talking about is 1 1% to 2% of labor supply. so it's not something that will

At all. here to discuss that, immigration reform and more, two senate leaders. roy blount joining us from missouri, and from maryland, ben carton. the cbo says over the next decade, senator, that there will be 2.5 million fewer workers working full-time because of obamacare. here is the cbo director doug elmendorf. >> by providing health insurance to people with low income and withdrawing those subsidies as income rises, the act creates a disincentive relative for people to work. >> republicans say this proves that obamacare is a job killer. democrats say it means that pewer people will be loc...

It would split his own party. and they're convinced that the democrats are most interested in getting as many new voters as possible . and they think they can run on obamacare right through november. i think they're mistaken. but in my judgment, this guy la oppose the national interests. >> juan, what happened? >> well, if you want to put it in simple terp, heritage act, tea party and talk ready said no to speaker boehner and speaker boehner could not the say no to his tea party caucus in the house. and he came forward with these principles on the cop september that it's time to do something.

It would split his own party. and they're convinced that the democrats are most interested in getting as many new voters as possible . and they think they can run on obamacare right through november. i think they're mistaken. but in my judgment, this guy la oppose the national interests. >> juan, what happened? >> well, if you want to put it in simple terp, heritage act, tea party and talk ready said no to speaker boehner and speaker boehner could not the say no to his tea party caucus in the house. and he came forward with these principles on the cop september that it's time to do something.

Joining us today. we very much appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, our sunday panel joins the discussion whether obamacare will discourage people from working. be sure to share what you think on facebook. hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ m'm... ] great taste. [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.®