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Jurisdiction for impeachment is the judiciary committee. it's not happening in the judiciary committee, which nadler runs, it's actually in the intel committee. number two, it is all happening behind closed doors. we don't know what anybody said on friday you had another testimony from the ukrainian ambassador. her opening statement leaks but then everything else as part of that is behind closed doors. and now they're calling him a fact witness, john ratcliffe called adam schiff a fact witness because, of course, he did meet with the so-called whiting blower before -- whistleblower before the ...

Spurs the judiciary committee, which nadler is heading, to move more strongly in the direction of an impeachment, a formal impeachment inquiry or impeachment itself. it was just 24 hours ago it seemed like nadler and speaker pelosi were basically ruling out impeachment and now you have this on the table, a rather explosive allegation. i think it's important to put it in some historical perspective that in a normal environment a story like this that the president had tried to remove or even discussed a prosecutor who's investigating matters he was involved in would just ring out like a thunder ...

Josh, if this grenade goes off, if nadler is right, based on your knowledge of this situation then what? >> well, i think the big question becomes whether this is part of the kind of thing that spurs the judiciary committee, which nadler is heading, to move more strongly in the direction of an impeachment, a formal impeachment inquiry or impeachment itself. it was just 24 hours ago it seemed like nadler and speaker pelosi were basically ruling out impeachment and now you have this on the table, a rather explosive allegation. i think it's important to put it in some historical perspective that ...

But this is an interesting point in terms of why did the president decide to release this. why did he give republicans permission to release this? i've read the memo about seven times and i just read it again about ten minutes ago. i don't understand how this exonerated the president. i don't get that. there is questions about the process, but if anything this strengthens the special prosecutor's hand, robert mueller's hand. so politically i think this will hurt the republican party in the long-term. >> where does this discussion of memos end. >> there is another fight now over memos. which is...