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jens stoltenberg was speaking as leaders of nato countries prepare to meet at a summit in madrid on tuesday. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. what i find funny, you might find offensive. comedy challenges taste and convention and it can rouse strong reaction, as we saw at this year's 0scars when a joke earned comedian chris rock a slap in the face from the actor will smith. my guest today has spent more than 25 years finding laughs in sometimes unlikely places. 0mid djalili was born in london to iranian parents. he has thrived as a cross cultur...

in sometimes unlikely places, omid djalili was born in london to iranian parents. he has thrived as a cross culture comedic chameleon, but is it possible to be funny without being mean? omid djalili, welcome to hardtalk. stephen sackur, my friend, my fellow presenter in the business of show, man who is so unbelievably good looking and thin that he walks into snooker hall, they start chalking his head. i am so happy to be here, this is one of my favourite shows. well, if you carry on like that, this won't be an interview, it will be a monologue! let me ask you this, you have been doin...

He was, there was all this sexist humour, and then he was on newsnight and he was grilled, and it was really awful to watch. my question was, we never brought forward the people who gave him a television show in the first place, who thought that kind of humour was appropriate for white britain, to i suppose digest that humour. so, the people who gave that show in the first place were never brought to any account whereas a lot of us comedians were saying, how the hell has that guy got a tv show? that is not the kind of humour that we need right now. that is the big question, who are the people ...

The kind ofjoke that would get me into the hearts of british people. sadly. so when fellow comedians like ricky gervais suggest that the comedy environment is becoming more and more difficult to operate in, do you agree? no, i don't think it is that difficult. for me, even cancel culture is an interesting one. there was an example of a guy called dapper laughs, who had a television show on itv, and he was cancelled. and then there was the all the stuff about how appalling he was, there was all this sexist humour, and then he was on newsnight and he was grilled, and it was really awful to watch...

And he was grilled, and it was really awful to watch. my question was, we never brought forward the people who gave him a television show in the first place, who thought that kind of humour was appropriate for white britain, to suppose that i just that humour. so, the people who gave that show in the first place were never brought to any account whereas a lot of us comedians were saying, how the hell has that guy got a tv show? that is not the kind of humour that we need right now. that is the big question, who are the people that are deciding these things? that is the big question. i am just ...