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You look at the map and it's all red, except it is blue most of the time because in the areas where people live, congested big city areas, they dominate presidential elections. in philadelphia, that one county out of 67 counties in pennsylvania dominates the state because that's where so many people live. >> absolutely. i went to a deep dive worm hole on pennsylvania. one of the bibles of the state. you are right. you have larger than average college-educated white population. you compare it to the rest of the state where you have a larger working class population and rural population but they...

But the way that philadelphia is concentrated. those philadelphia suburbs are so full of white college-educated voters, those are just the kind of voters that are trending towards the democratic party. and pennsylvania, just interestingly enough, against ohio, it has a slightly higher college-educated white population. a slightly higher median income. it's even an older population. but it's just built just enough in the democrats' favor that if you can turn out those suburban white voters and those african-american voters in philadelphia, that's the state. >> let me go to jonathan on this. let...

On pennsylvania. one of the bibles of the state. you are right. you have this big bow hlarger t college-educated white population. you compare it to the rest of the state where you have a larger working class population and rural population but they are not as large numerically. the challenge for republicans every cycle because it is demographically similar, the same size african-american vote, but the way that philadelphia is concentrated, those philadelphia suburbs are so full of white college-educated voters, those voters are trending toward the democratic party. pennsylvania, interestingly...

A descending city. now new orleans according to forbes, "wall street journal," an ascending city. >> economy may be growing and schools belttter. with less affordable housing and higher rents, many who fled have never returned. in the lower ninth ward, the population is 80% less than prior to the storm. before the storm, city was 67% african-american. now 60% african-american. white population is 32%. the city is a majority, minority city and will be for a very long time. >> levees have been rebuilt, flood protection increased. is it enough to with stand another storm like katrina. >> we got t...

2012, we are still having conversations that we could in fact talk about in the 30s and 40s and 50s. the neighborhood that this happened in is not a rockefeller-type neighborhood. i think the 47% white population is there. you have the rest of latinos and blacks. so it is not what it's being portrayed as. however, this is a very tragic and very difficult situation. >> sean: very tragic. >> that's why reasonable men should, in fact, prevail. >> sean: we have to get to the facts. what bothered me here is a rush to judgment. now we know there are eyewitnesses. we didn't know in the beginning that...