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She took music lessons at school. the womb of the soulful singer of our time. lou bethel, sam cook, clara ward, mavis. she came with that. mrs. houston, whitney's mother singing in the background. the gospel harmonics. jacson, washington, the cause of joy, river and jane, really came
Themselves, the circle is shrinking. >> the elders who you really respect that you can go to when things aren't so wonderful. when you are having a hard time, who can bring you home and you can listen to them. this is a very rare to get to the place of a whitney or mariah carey. who would you go to? there's patty, gladys. there's something about aretha franklin that statesmen respected, that people all over the world respected in a way that is kind of unparalleled. there's a loss, i think, in the hierarchy of divadom. >> yes. >> as we were talking before, there's something about being a diva a...