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Veterans within the very ambitious goal set by the v.a., which was 14 days, that is better, by and large, by the private sector. what they should have done is run the flag up the pole and made it very, very clear, we do not have the resources. and instead, what you had is people manipulating data, which is completely unacceptable. the other point that i would make, and i'm chairman of a subcommittee that deals with primary care, if you think we only have a problem in terms of waiting periods, within the v.a., you would not be right. we have tens of millions of people today in america who were ...

Which was 14 days, that is better, by and large, by the private sector. what they should have done is run the flag up the pole and made it very, very clear, we do not have the resources. and instead, what you had is people manipulating data, which is completely unacceptable. the other point that i would make, and i'm chairman of a subcommittee that deals with primary care, if you think we only have a problem in terms of waiting periods, within the v.a., you would not be right. we have tens of millions of people today in america who were not in the v.a., who cannot access primary health care. w...

And instead, what you had is people manipulating data, which is completely unacceptable. the other point that i would make, and i'm chairman of a subcommittee that deals with primary care, if you think we only have a problem in terms of waiting periods, within the v.a., you would not be right. we have tens of millions of people today in america who were not in the v.a., who cannot access primary health care. we have in cities all over america, very long waiting periods of time. and that is because we lack sufficient numbers of primary health care physicians and nurses, all over this country. a...