One is, can you prove pat toomey, the republican candidate who is a member of the club for growth is too far out? too much of a winger, if you will, for pennsylvania? let's start with that question, and how do you prove it? >> well, first off i've sat down with pat toomey and even had a beer with him. not a bad guy whatsoever. is he extreme in his views? he wants to drill in lake erie. he sees this catastrophe in the gulf of mexico and says, just continue on drilling. he did head the club for growth. and john mccain called it a bad man for the ultra rich. the issue for us pennsylvanians is pat...